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The appraisal came in 8% lower

  • 29 Apr 2016 5:54 PM
    Message # 3995108

    I'm excited my appraisal came in lower, but we're in a sellers market.  I'm buying a property and I want to reduce the price, how much wiggle room is out there?  Do I have to pay full price?  This is an investment property that wasn't listed on MLS.  I have an edge , but don't want to upset the process. Any thoughts?

  • 29 Apr 2016 7:00 PM
    Reply # 3995157 on 3995108

    Hello Cynthia,

    I am a REALTORĀ®, but I am not an attorney or a Residential Mortgage Loan Originator. You have a contract question, and you should certainly seek a qualified opinion.

    If an appraisal was done, is it a function of Buyer's lender and financing? Please refer to your contract and any addendums. From my experience you can often negotiate a lower price with a "bargaining chip" at your disposal. If you are using a 3rd party financing addendum, there are paragraphs that reference Buyer credit approval and lender approval of the property. If your financing is dependent on a certain percentage down payment, the appraisal results determine the Loan to Value (LTV) ratio. in many cases, you can negotiate a new sales price based on the appraisal, or terminate because the Lender won't fund unless someone makes up the difference between the sale price and appraised price. If your contract has a special provision or a clause stating how you can terminate the contract, you can certainly negotiate a lower price, or terminate the contract.

    Why did the appraisal came in lower than the contract purchase price? Without knowing how you determined the price of your offer, if you based your offer price on comps you or your buyer's agent pulled, compare the appraisal comps with your comps. Try to learn what the appraiser did and why the appraisal comps are better than yours.

    If you are working with a Lender, and/or attorney, and/or a real estate license holder, be sure to ask them for guidance, as they will be knowledgeable of the terms of your contract.

    Thanks,

    Terry 

  • 30 Apr 2016 10:21 PM
    Reply # 3996508 on 3995108

    Cynthia, do I understand your post correctly? This is an investment, yet you are willing to pay full price, maybe even more? Is this a rehab project with the appraisal reflecting the value of the property in its current condition?

  • 01 May 2016 12:26 PM
    Reply # 3997281 on 3995108

    Terry, thank you for your comments


    Dwayne,  of course I want to offer the lower appraised value.  But given the relationship with the agent, the lack of MLS filing and the paying tenant.  If have a feeling the seller may list the property on MLS  and may get someone else to pay higher than appraised values.  No this is not a rehab .

  • 01 May 2016 10:12 PM
    Reply # 3997705 on 3995108
    Robin Carriger (Administrator)

    Cynthia,

    I have too many questions about your situation to adequately respond, and I'm concerned that you may be about to offer WAY too much.  If you'd like to discuss this, please feel free to give me a call at 817-300-1132.

    Thanks,

    Robin Carriger
    President
    DFW REI Club
  • 02 May 2016 9:30 PM
    Reply # 3999654 on 3995108
    Deleted user

    I agree, call Robin and keep us posted if you would... My initial thought would be to walk, but perhaps there is not enough info out there for me to assess... One of my BIG things.... if the numbers don't look right then walk! 


    Brian R. Baker, MBA 

  • 13 May 2016 7:56 PM
    Reply # 4019482 on 3995108

    I paid $2,000 over the appraised value.  The deal came with a long term, paying tenant, the property wasn't listed on MLS, therefore no bidding war.   I will profit $400 per month.  I feel it was a win-win. 

    Thank you all for your comments and help

  • 13 May 2016 8:22 PM
    Reply # 4019501 on 3995108

    Hello Cynthia,

    I expect your positive cash flow is figured after all monthly expenses (including an equivalent monthly tax and insurance payment) are accounted for. As long as the numbers work for you, you have a good deal. Take the time to study this deal and find ways to improve the financials on your next deal. 

    Terry

     

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