Dallas-Fort Worth Real Estate Investor Club

Wholesalers and MLS REO deals

  • 21 Mar 2018 12:21 PM
    Message # 5991183

    I find both of these deal sources to be very frustrating. 

    Wholesalers:

    Wholesalers offer the property to their entire cash buyer list to effect a sealed bid silent auction. You have zero visibility into other buyers' offers and are compelled by the format of the sale to make your highest and best offer. High pressure. High anxiety. Lower margins. Higher risks.

    MLS REO property:

    Bank takes offers for some period of time effecting a silent sealed bid online auction on a property with a ~6% realtor's commission built into the sale price. Due to the commission structure, the listing agent is predisposed to suppress offers from buyers with agents and promote offers from buyers submitting offers directly through them. So, if you want to use your favorite agent to submit your offer then it is uncertain whether your offer is even communicated to the bank by the selling agent. Zero visibility. 


    Last modified: 21 Mar 2018 12:30 PM | rockne ardoyno
  • 21 Mar 2018 1:23 PM
    Reply # 5991337 on 5991183
    I work for a wholesaler and we do the silent auction for occupied properties.  We also sell vacant properties at list price in a first come first served fashion.  The latter might be a better fit for you. 
  • 22 Mar 2018 10:31 AM
    Reply # 5992868 on 5991183

    If you are looking to flip I wouldn't waste your time with either wholesalers, MLS or REO's. The numbers/spread that those sources provide work for some buy/hold individuals or groups (not all). There are many individuals or groups buying on appreciation these days... in other words they are not buying on the current value of the property. They are buying on a hedge, or what the property might be worth 3-5 years from now. Wholesalers are making a living selling to those folks as well as newer investors that are just looking to buy something.... So if you are a Flip Investor and you are looking to buy using the old 70% of ARV less repairs model, then your only option for locating properties is to do your own marketing and/or networking. Hope that helps!

    Steve

  • 22 Mar 2018 6:05 PM
    Reply # 5993680 on 5991183

    still being a strong seller's market is what is really driving the competition off of the charts.   If you don't want the house as a buyer (of any kind), then someone else will.  Those from out of state still look at our prices as cheap even though we think they are getting out of hand.  Either way, it's a GREAT time to be a wholesaler because people will over pay and the wholesaler is making great money on those homes in not so great areas or condition.  "If" a good deal does comes along, the competition drives the price into the not so great price zone.  Either way, you over pay.  The only way is to find the deal yourself without competition which is what everyone has already said.

    Stay away from those who sells to the highest bidder.  That's a disaster waiting to happen.

    The only decent deals are for the buy and hold people assuming they don't have to put a lot of rehab into them.

    I am also licensed so I always use the "Its easy to buy, hard to sell" thinking.  Easy to sell anything now, but when it's a buyer's market later when you want to sell, then good luck if you didn't buy it in the right location etc. now.

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